This format of discussion is inaccessible and exclusionary

I'm a high IQ auto didact polymath.

The one subject I was not good at was writing essays about social subjects.
I find that instead of being fact based, scientifically accessible and judged on logic and accuracy, they were deeply personal, and unless I was able to get into the mind fot he person marking them, I was often negatively judged and accussed of holding certain opinions simply because my viewppoints differed.

this format reminds me deeply of that. We can already see fracture and dissent, and people pick at others for failures in style or content or position.

whilst I undertand the thought behind it, I feel strongly that this is a massive failure in communication, and advances made in the psychology of client engagment have been thrwon away and an ideological attempt made to shohorn an inherently face to face open disucssion into an ill suited domain.

I came here becaue I saw an andert that purported to ask me about tikanga in healthcare, and if it mattered to me, yes or no

that question does not exist. that advert was misleading.

How about the people running this break this up into several statges, first finding out the key issues, then canvassing opinions on them. you know, the way that has been developed quite well already

Why the contribution is important

it is important as this interface of communication is not inclusive, and excludes a huge number of people form all walks of life, from having meaningful input at an important time

by flowirin on March 21, 2023 at 03:48PM

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  • Posted by xenafannz March 22, 2023 at 18:04

    Here here! I wasn't expecting this clunky, hard to navigate site with huge tracts of words all over the place.
  • Posted by Bware March 25, 2023 at 08:40

    I’m a engagement professional and I totally agree. This is a bizarre way of getting feedback and I am confused about who it is targeting. Certainly not the most vulnerable users of the health system.
  • Posted by KBarnsley_Admin March 27, 2023 at 15:39

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  • Posted by KBarnsley_Admin March 27, 2023 at 15:42

    Kia ora @Flowirin, @xenafannz and @Bware, thank you for sharing your feedback on the platform. This is the first time we’ve tried this kind of online engagement and it’s important for us to understand how it is working. We know Tātou won’t meet the needs of everyone we want to hear from or who wants to share their thoughts and ideas with us. If you’d like to provide more feedback you can email us on
  • Posted by ana April 14, 2023 at 17:12

    agree with Bware-this is a totally bizarre way of gaining feedback. I would be interested in the cost of staff replying to this.

    "It may not suit everyone we know, but we are just trying something new".

    there, I saved you replying to me. Sorry I registered.
  • Posted by Allsorts29 April 25, 2023 at 22:01

    If they seriously wanted and needed this feedback, you would think they would provide it in a format that makes it easy to do so.
  • Posted by phoenix April 27, 2023 at 11:01

    I don't feel like anything we write here will actually be used by the ministry in any meaningful way, all the issues we have outlined stem from the state of the economy and successive underfunding in the healthcare sector, which are govt level issues. MOH does or should already know about all the issues people are outlining here, the problem is they don't have the power or money to do anything about it, because of wider legislative and govt inefficiency.
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