Treat everyone the same

If we are all treated equally then there can be no question of racism or favouritism or white or black privilige. Treating different ethnicities differently immediately shows racism in the system, and it is mindboggling that people who point out this flaw in the system get labelled as being racist themselves. The meaning of racism is when one ethnicity is treated differently from another. Lets get back to working together so we can all be treated the same.

Why the contribution is important

If you can't understand why this idea is important then we are all in trouble anyway. We need to bring the country together. Not seperate it.

by burgermusic on March 14, 2023 at 08:09PM

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  • Posted by AceTimelord March 14, 2023 at 23:28

    I must disagree with some points you have made. There is absolutely a massive problem with racism in our health system. Which leads to much poorer outcomes for Maori and other POC.
    Some of this is absolutely due to health providers not treating them with the same care, trust, and diligence as their white patients. But a lot is also due to them treating their POC patients exactly like their white patients in ways that don't work for them.
    The idea of just ignoring race and hoping racism will go away has been tried, and surprise, it just resulted in more racism. The health system can't just treat us all the same, because we are not all the same, I don't need the same meds as someone with type one diabetes, because I don't have diabetes. Someone greeting me in NZSL isn't going to work for me, anymore than someone handing my Deaf friend a braille leaflet.
    The reality is, our health system has predominantly been set up by, and for, white people, so treating everyone the same under the current system, just means carry on treating everyone as if they are white, and blaming it on so called 'personal failings' when that just doesn't work.
    Instead, I would say, the health system needs to treat everyone equitably, with a focus on making outcomes fairer and more positive. Ensuring that everyone is taken care of in a way that compliments and celebrates their cultural values, instead of fighting them.
    And most importantly, these services need to be lead by the communities they are for, and must have Maori voices, and those of other POC throughout the governance structures of those organisations, as well as present at every level. So that there can be a health system that, instead of treating everyone like they are exactly the same, treats everyone like they are just as valuable as those who have traditionally been catered for, because, obviously, they are.
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  • Posted by susan March 21, 2023 at 06:01

    Ace timelord the health system should not be race related like you are saying no race should have privileges over the other, each individual person should be treated with respect and on individual needs to their own health problems, we have all had unsatisfactory outcomes and not had conclusions we wanted, but don't and won't call it racist I call it inexperienced or unprofessional medical people not taking the time to care for people individually..I see it alot and it's nothing to do with race.
  • Posted by jeanhaysmith March 21, 2023 at 13:01

    Equality in service provision does not achieve equity in health and wellbeing outcomes - we have so much qualitative (e.g. people's experiences communicated via interviews and photo-records and so on) and quantitative evidence (e.g. statistical analysis of information collected in surveys such as census and other ways) of this that what we need now is action on changing systems that have a persistent bias in them that favour the majority (which are already those who do best).
  • Posted by xenafannz March 22, 2023 at 18:24

    ^ what AceTimelord said.
    "Equally" is a one-size-fits-all idea.
    Over simplifying: every person gets a beige bandaid on their left thumb.

    "Equitably" is a each-gets-what-they-need idea.
    Not all beige, some brown or other colours.
    Not even all bandaids, some get stitches or casts or amputations - or maybe no physical intervention if it's not appropriate.
    Not all on the left thumb, but rather wherever the treatment is required.
    Not all the same.
  • Posted by KBarnsley_Admin March 29, 2023 at 09:02

    In Aotearoa, people have differences in health that are not only avoidable but unfair and unjust. That is why the health care reforms have equity at their heart. We recognise that people require different approaches and resources to get the same health outcomes. We want everyone to have access to the care they need. For more information about Manatū Hauora’s position on equity, you can read our equity statement here:[…]/achieving-equity More information about our work on building an anti-racist health system is available here:[…]/ao-mai-te-ra-anti-racism-kaupapa
  • Posted by emilygill April 19, 2023 at 21:32

    This idea only favors majority groups in power, and therefore undermines the principles of equity, which is about justice and fairness.

    If this idea were titled 'Treat everyone Fairly' . . . this is exactly what we need:[…]uity-inequality-and-justice
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